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wwii-planes/?test=latestnews



Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes


YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation enthusiast
to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.

Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the aircraft
after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good condition,
since

(cont'd on page)

On 18/10/2012 15:03, Jess Lurkin wrote:
> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/17/myanmar-signs-deal-to-dig-up-buried-
> wwii-planes/?test=latestnews
>
>
>
> Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes
>
>
> YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation enthusiast
> to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
> fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
>
> Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the aircraft
> after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good condition,
> since
>
> (cont'd on page)
>

Yes, it was mentioned in the UK press many months ago, and today we had
this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html

Note that they are the MkXIV which are the Griffon 65 supercharged V12
engined version.

Interesting times...

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On 18/10/2012 16:21, ®i©ardo wrote:
> On 18/10/2012 15:03, Jess Lurkin wrote:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/17/myanmar-signs-deal-to-dig-up-buried-
>>
>> wwii-planes/?test=latestnews
>>
>>
>>
>> Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes
>>
>>
>> YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation
>> enthusiast
>> to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
>> fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
>>
>> Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the
>> aircraft
>> after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good
>> condition,
>> since
>>
>> (cont'd on page)
>>
>
> Yes, it was mentioned in the UK press many months ago, and today we had
> this:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html
>
>
> Note that they are the MkXIV which are the Griffon 65 supercharged V12
> engined version.
>
> Interesting times...
>

The Daily Telegraph article referred to shows a Mk.V, and The Times
today had photos of Mk. VIIIs and Mk.Is. Oh well.

I think the reason this has come up again is that (according to The
Times) David Cundall signed an agreement this week with the Burmese
Government. This wasn't possible earlier because of the sanctions in force.

The actual number of aircraft and their condition remain the subject of
speculation until they're actually recovered.

Until then, seeing a squadron of Mk.XIVs at Flying Legends will just be
yet another dream.

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Peter

On 18/10/2012 17:26, Ramsman wrote:
> On 18/10/2012 16:21, ®i©ardo wrote:
>> On 18/10/2012 15:03, Jess Lurkin wrote:
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/17/myanmar-signs-deal-to-dig-up-buried-
>>>
>>>
>>> wwii-planes/?test=latestnews
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes
>>>
>>>
>>> YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation
>>> enthusiast
>>> to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
>>> fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
>>>
>>> Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the
>>> aircraft
>>> after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good
>>> condition,
>>> since
>>>
>>> (cont'd on page)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it was mentioned in the UK press many months ago, and today we had
>> this:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that they are the MkXIV which are the Griffon 65 supercharged V12
>> engined version.
>>
>> Interesting times...
>>
>
> The Daily Telegraph article referred to shows a Mk.V, and The Times
> today had photos of Mk. VIIIs and Mk.Is. Oh well.
>

Agreed, although the Telegraph makes no claim about picture being
anything other than the caption which was: "A Spitfire flying from RAF
Manston..." which could have included the words "...in the colours of a
Polish Squadron". But then, that's journalism for you.

In the same paper was an article a journalist who recently got to fly in
a two seat Spitfire of which eh said "The Spitfire was the only aircraft
to be in service at the beginning and the end of WWII." which is
absolute cock!

> I think the reason this has come up again is that (according to The
> Times) David Cundall signed an agreement this week with the Burmese
> Government. This wasn't possible earlier because of the sanctions in force.
>
> The actual number of aircraft and their condition remain the subject of
> speculation until they're actually recovered.
>
> Until then, seeing a squadron of Mk.XIVs at Flying Legends will just be
> yet another dream.
>

Oh ye of little faith...

;-)

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On 18/10/2012 19:52, ®i©ardo wrote:
> On 18/10/2012 17:26, Ramsman wrote:
>> On 18/10/2012 16:21, ®i©ardo wrote:
>>> On 18/10/2012 15:03, Jess Lurkin wrote:
>>>> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/17/myanmar-signs-deal-to-dig-up-buried-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wwii-planes/?test=latestnews
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation
>>>> enthusiast
>>>> to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
>>>> fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the
>>>> aircraft
>>>> after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good
>>>> condition,
>>>> since
>>>>
>>>> (cont'd on page)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it was mentioned in the UK press many months ago, and today we had
>>> this:
>>>
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Note that they are the MkXIV which are the Griffon 65 supercharged V12
>>> engined version.
>>>
>>> Interesting times...
>>>
>>
>> The Daily Telegraph article referred to shows a Mk.V, and The Times
>> today had photos of Mk. VIIIs and Mk.Is. Oh well.
>>
>
> Agreed, although the Telegraph makes no claim about picture being
> anything other than the caption which was: "A Spitfire flying from RAF
> Manston..." which could have included the words "...in the colours of a
> Polish Squadron". But then, that's journalism for you.
>
> In the same paper was an article a journalist who recently got to fly in
> a two seat Spitfire of which eh said "The Spitfire was the only aircraft
> to be in service at the beginning and the end of WWII." which is
> absolute cock!
>
>> I think the reason this has come up again is that (according to The
>> Times) David Cundall signed an agreement this week with the Burmese
>> Government. This wasn't possible earlier because of the sanctions in
>> force.
>>
>> The actual number of aircraft and their condition remain the subject of
>> speculation until they're actually recovered.
>>
>> Until then, seeing a squadron of Mk.XIVs at Flying Legends will just be
>> yet another dream.
>>
>
> Oh ye of little faith...
>
> ;-)
>

An update in today's Daily Telegraph says that the number of Spitfires
"...could be as high as 140."

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®i©ardo > wrote in
:

>
> An update in today's Daily Telegraph says that the number of Spitfires
> "...could be as high as 140."
>


YEEEHAW! If only 25% are recoverable, that's
**35** "new" pieces of eye candy! Hope that all
these orphans get loving, appreciative (and
wealthy) new homes.

Would be nice if there are varying models, but
that may be kinda doubtful...

Hmmm... thinking of the logic of burying that
many A/C. Since this whole story is new to me,
I'll have to do some reading up to find out
why that many birds might be buried. No fuel to
fly 'em out? No pilots? Tactical burials for
how soon a return? Why put them in stasis when
the were badly needed at the time? And were they
put to sleep correctly? They probably figured on
them being resurrected in months or a year. Hope
that SEVENTY years didn't wreak havoc.

Saddam Hussein could have learned some lessons
here on how to really hide his MiGs.

Thanks to all for giving me several places to
start the research.

On 19/10/2012 20:13, Jess Lurkin wrote:
> ®i©ardo > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> An update in today's Daily Telegraph says that the number of Spitfires
>> "...could be as high as 140."
>>
>
>
> YEEEHAW! If only 25% are recoverable, that's
> **35** "new" pieces of eye candy! Hope that all
> these orphans get loving, appreciative (and
> wealthy) new homes.
>
> Would be nice if there are varying models, but
> that may be kinda doubtful...
>
> Hmmm... thinking of the logic of burying that
> many A/C. Since this whole story is new to me,
> I'll have to do some reading up to find out
> why that many birds might be buried. No fuel to
> fly 'em out? No pilots? Tactical burials for
> how soon a return? Why put them in stasis when
> the were badly needed at the time? And were they
> put to sleep correctly? They probably figured on
> them being resurrected in months or a year. Hope
> that SEVENTY years didn't wreak havoc.
>
> Saddam Hussein could have learned some lessons
> here on how to really hide his MiGs.
>
> Thanks to all for giving me several places to
> start the research.
>

To quote from the Daily Telegraph article:

"He said the Spitfires, of which there are only around 35 flying left in
the world, were shipped to Burma and then transported by rail to the
British RAF base during the war.

However, advances in technology and the emergence of more agile jets
meant they were never used and officials abandoned them shortly before
the end of the conflict.

“They were just buried there in transport crates,” Mr Cundall said.
“They were waxed, wrapped in greased paper and their joints tarred. They
will be in near perfect condition.” "

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On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:21:08 +0100, ®i©ardo > wrote:

>On 18/10/2012 15:03, Jess Lurkin wrote:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/17/myanmar-signs-deal-to-dig-up-buried-
>> wwii-planes/?test=latestnews
>>
>>
>>
>> Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes
>>
>>
>> YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation enthusiast
>> to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
>> fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
>>
>> Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the aircraft
>> after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good condition,
>> since
>>
>> (cont'd on page)
>>
>
>Yes, it was mentioned in the UK press many months ago, and today we had
>this:
>
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html
>
>Note that they are the MkXIV which are the Griffon 65 supercharged V12
>engined version.
>
>Interesting times...

I pray they don't all end up hacked into Reno air racers...

On 20/10/2012 10:12, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:21:08 +0100, ®i©ardo > wrote:
>
>> On 18/10/2012 15:03, Jess Lurkin wrote:
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/17/myanmar-signs-deal-to-dig-up-buried-
>>> wwii-planes/?test=latestnews
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Burma signs deal to dig up buried World War II planes
>>>
>>>
>>> YANGON, Myanmar – Burma has signed a deal with a British aviation enthusiast
>>> to allow the excavation of a World War II treasure: dozens of Spitfire
>>> fighter planes buried by the British almost 70 years ago.
>>>
>>> Aviation enthusiast David J. Cundall discovered the locations of the aircraft
>>> after years of searching. The planes are believed to be in good condition,
>>> since
>>>
>>> (cont'd on page)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it was mentioned in the UK press many months ago, and today we had
>> this:
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9203822/Spitfires-buried-in-Burma-during-war-to-be-returned-to-UK.html
>>
>> Note that they are the MkXIV which are the Griffon 65 supercharged V12
>> engined version.
>>
>> Interesting times...
>
> I pray they don't all end up hacked into Reno air racers...
>

Yes, I'll drink to that.

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